@rayne_essence @atomicaceso >> When psychiatric treatments worsen our suffering—we're gaslit and misdiagnosed… > Within 15 minutes. Frankly, 15 minutes is optimistic: ”Mean time until GPs labelled symptoms as medically unexplained was ~4min for
@PlagueAvoidant @StenHelmfrid This is the study he quotes. "Psychosomatic" does not appear anywhere in it https://t.co/L7I206gCDE
Post based on a really interesting qualitative study (https://t.co/aOIafvL21p). Great insight into where clinical reasoning can go wrong sometimes ....
Medically unexplained symptoms: time to and triggers for diagnosis ”Most GPs labelled the presented symptoms as unexplained soon after the start of the consultation—non-analytical reasoning was a central component in their thought.” Br J Gen Pract 2020 h
RT @CSFLeakMatters: @kacheston “…mean time until GPs labelled symptoms as medically unexplained was about 4 minutes for newly presented sym…
@kacheston “…mean time until GPs labelled symptoms as medically unexplained was about 4 minutes for newly presented symptoms and 2 minutes for symptoms for which the patients had already visited the GP before.” https://t.co/antRO66982
@CBammerMD @ChrZacharias @AlanLevinovitz "1 minute and 47 seconds. It seems impossibly fast until you see the median time for patients who had presented symptoms at a prior visit: 12 seconds." https://t.co/fqffWbFE95
Out of 20, "In 16 consultations, GPs said that they already thought the patient would present with MUS before the start of the consultation." (MUS=med unexplained symptoms) https://t.co/Ly4ITR5txC #sjogrens #autoimmunedisease #invisibleillness #sjogrensdia
@FndPortal @rand_Kei Meanwhile, let's at least extend the median time to diagnosis to 30 seconds or longer. Hell, maybe they could even talk to the patient first! https://t.co/botAWcd8U2
Sadly, there is nothing surprising about this. @StenHelmfrid thank you for sharing the presentation that points to this study. #invisibleillness #chronicillness #mysteryillness #sjogrens @SarahSchaferMD "Med unexplained sx: time to & triggers for dx" h
@Violettatamm Wenn eins sich dann noch diese neuere Studie durchliest, dann stellen sich doch einige Fragen.. "It took GPs a median of just 12 seconds to decide that a patient’s symptoms were psychosomatic." https://t.co/uDI485vdje https://t.co/v28Q9rc6
De flesta läkare kan sluta sig till att symtom är psykosomatiska på mindre än 2 minuter. Om läkaren visste att patienten klagat över samma symtom tidigare tog det oftast mindre än 12 sekunder att ställa diagnos. Det här berättade läkarna självmant. #svmed
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
@Begrepenklacht Tenenkrommend. https://t.co/TAcVTNxytD
@realersatz @SatchaEM_ME Tu ne crois pas si bien dire... Dans cette étude au RU, le temps moyen de consultation pour des MG pour identifier des MUS (Medically Unexplained Symptoms = symptômes psychosomatiques) était de 4 min et 25 sec pour une première c
RT @recover2renew: @OnlyEnnui Dutch study ... #MUS speed to diagnosis .... Deeply disturbing. https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
RT @recover2renew: #Medicallyunexplainedsymptoms: time to and triggers for diagnosis in #primarycare consultations 😶 #MUS #MUPS ⚠️😶 ht…
RT @acanopyofstars: "This suggests that non-analytical reasoning was a central component in their thought process." Yeah, we could tell. h…
"This suggests that non-analytical reasoning was a central component in their thought process." Yeah, we could tell.
RT @recover2renew: #Medicallyunexplainedsymptoms: time to and triggers for diagnosis in #primarycare consultations 😶 #MUS #MUPS ⚠️😶 ht…
#Medicallyunexplainedsymptoms: time to and triggers for diagnosis in #primarycare consultations 😶 #MUS #MUPS ⚠️😶 https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
@OnlyEnnui Dutch study ... #MUS speed to diagnosis .... Deeply disturbing. https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
#NEISVoid This is worrisome and explains so much. 😬
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
Wtf
RT @keithgeraghty: this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as une…
this is rather shocking and goes to the centre of the problem in MUS: how long does it take GPs to label symptoms as unexplained = 4 minutues after 1st consult and 2 minutes after subsequent consults https://t.co/4sP6tj5UA8 https://t.co/ito5IJCkpZ
RT @recover2renew: #MUSviolationsHour Several articles in Feb2020 issue of BJGP Such as ... https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
RT @recover2renew: #MUSviolationsHour Several articles in Feb2020 issue of BJGP Such as ... https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
RT @recover2renew: #MUS Feb 2020 https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
#MUS Feb 2020 https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
RT @recover2renew: #MUSviolationsHour Several articles in Feb2020 issue of BJGP Such as ... https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
#MUSviolationsHour Several articles in Feb2020 issue of BJGP Such as ... https://t.co/JHto8ZO20m
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
RT @recover2renew: #MUS #MUPS #medicallyunexplainedsymptoms Only 2-4 mins …. ? https://t.co/iOW0ob7rOG
RT @recover2renew: "GPs are triggered to #label symptoms as #medicallyunexplained by patients’ #symptom presentation, symptom patterns, and…
RT @benzosarebad: How "evidence based" is that?
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
RT @benzosarebad: How "evidence based" is that?
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
Assessed and judged without proper investigation. Very disappointing. As a woman I have experienced this frequently, and subsequently found out I has legitimate medical issues. You'd expect a GP to be more careful because many illnesses are invisible at fi
RT @benzosarebad: How "evidence based" is that?
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
RT @benzosarebad: How "evidence based" is that? https://t.co/7WG3uVdfjc
Wow - 11% of consultations labelled to have "medically unexplained symptoms". Conclusion: "This suggests that non-analytical reasoning was a central component in their thought process." Clinicians need tools to help them cope with the complexity of maki
RT @recover2renew: #MUS #MUPS #medicallyunexplainedsymptoms Only 2-4 mins …. ?
RT @recover2renew: "GPs are triggered to #label symptoms as #medicallyunexplained by patients’ #symptom presentation, symptom patterns, and…
Fascinating
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
RT @recover2renew: "GPs are triggered to #label symptoms as #medicallyunexplained by patients’ #symptom presentation, symptom patterns, and…
RT @recover2renew: "GPs are triggered to #label symptoms as #medicallyunexplained by patients’ #symptom presentation, symptom patterns, and…
"GPs are triggered to #label symptoms as #medicallyunexplained by patients’ #symptom presentation, symptom patterns, and symptom attribution. This suggests that non-analytical reasoning was a central component in their thought process." #MUS #MUPS
RT @benzosarebad: How "evidence based" is that?
#MUS #MUPS #medicallyunexplainedsymptoms Only 2-4 mins …. ?
How "evidence based" is that?
RT @BJGPjournal: GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients…
GPs decided to label symptoms as ‘medically unexplained’ within 2-4 minutes of the consultation based on the way patients present their symptoms https://t.co/amNqOsDHug https://t.co/hGTJzjTYZv
Traducción propia del twit: un razonamiento no analítico es el componente principal para q el MAP interprete un síntoma como MUS, síntomas no explicados médicamente. Yo diría que eso es ser subjetivo, y que un MAP no es psiquiatra Thanks for your hard wo
Medically unexplained symptoms: time to and triggers for diagnosis in primary care consultations, British Journal of General Practice 13 January 2020 https://t.co/MSELmjwhgU #MUS